Saturday, October 24, 2009

The Obama Thesis Mess, involving Michael Ledeen, Rush Limbaugh and Joe Klein, and my sorry part in it all!

Yesterday was not a good day! I found myself at something close to the center of an embarrassing controversy (The Obama Columbia Thesis Affair!), and though not alone in that uncomfortable location, much if not most of it was totally my fault.

Early in the day I ran across a two day old post at Faster, Please!, Michael Ledeen's blog. I've read and respected Mr. Ledeen's work for years. It was entitled Obama and the Constitution; He Has His Doubts.

Mr. Ledeen wrote at the very beginning of his post:

Brian Lancaster at Jumping in Pools reported on Obama’s college thesis...


So very early to make a critical assumption and mistake, but not too early for me! I have used similar formulations, such as "as reported by Robin at Chickenhawk Express". When I do so, I am invariably making reference to someone who has credibility with me. I read Mr. Ledeen's words projecting my own sense of confidence in that way and didn't follow the link to Brian Lancaster's site. Huge mistake!

Noting that Mr. Ledeen's post was two days old (Oct. 21), I searched Google news for sources that would have picked up the story of these eminently newsworthy quotes attributed to a young Barack Obama at Columbia. I got nothing.

At that point and considering some very verifiable history of the GUANOs (Government's Unoffically Authorized News Organizations) as regards Barack Obama, I thought we might have another case of media 'ho-hum, move along, nothing to see here' when something might reflect badly on Obama!

I wrote a short piece comparing what I thought was media inaction in reporting on what I thought was an Obama thesis and the many reports in the media on the decades old thesis written by the Republican candidate for governor in Virginia. I sent that to American Thinker mid-morning, and it was posted as Obama's Columbia thesis excerpt surfaces. That post had:

What on earth does this President have to do to get the media coverage he so richly deserves! In the Virginia Governor's race, Republican candidate Robert McDonnell wrote a graduate thesis twenty years ago that could be politically damaging to his campaign. That decades old thesis has been covered by the Washington Post on August 30 and again on September 1. It has been reported on in some depth across the spectrum of media outlets from NPR to US News to the CS Monitor to FOX and on and on!


That was the main point of the post. I also quoted the supposed thesis by Obama as having this written by him:

... the Constitution allows for many things, but what it does not allow is the most revealing. The so-called Founders did not allow for economic freedom. While political freedom is supposedly a cornerstone of the document, the distribution of wealth is not even mentioned. While many believed that the new Constitution gave them liberty, it instead fitted them with the shackles of hypocrisy.


I didn't then and do not now consider those sentiments to be beyond the pale of possibility that Obama could think and write such as a very young college student who by his own admission sought to hang out with the radicals at Columbia, some of whom I've known! In this 2001 interview video, Obama the State Senator speaks of the Constitution as a document of negative liberties that avoided discussion of distribution of wealth, his "redistributive change".

Having said that, my main point was still about the GUANOs covering for Obama, a very current topic as the administrations has sought to keep the GUANOs in line by the example of ostracizing and demonizing FOX.

AT published the post and I had other things to do, but in spurts as I could I began to search Google news for any connection, as the Ledeen post had claimed, between Joe Klein and the thesis, and came up empty. I started to have growing doubts about the story. When the post went up at AT, the first comment to it was time stamped at 9:13. The times on the comments do not reflect the real time here on the East Coast where I write, but they do properly show intervals. By 9:59, three quarters of an hour later by time stamp, I commented as DenisK, identifying myself as the author, that I have doubts that the story I picked up from Michael Ledeen's blog was real and I was having trouble verifying it from other news sources. I wrote:

...I am having no success now in further verifying the quote and a growing sense of doubt that it is real.


In the interim and afterward, I tried without success to contact Mr. Ledeen (but did get through to PJM, the host for Mr. Ledeen's blog, with my concerns) and to continue to try to find any news source connecting Joe Klein to a supposed thesis. PJM later replied to me that they were also doubting the story. In frustration I finally, belatedly, unforgivably went to Mr. Ledeen's source for the story at Jumping in Pools- and found it to be a satire! I had certainly found - confirmation!

I was listening to Rush Limbaugh while doing so and he started to reference the Ledeen claim on his radio show, and believing in abject shame that he picked it up from my post at AT (he did as he later read from my piece), I immediately e-mailed him (subject line: Obama Thesis Quote Phony) and stated that I was the AT author, that I checked Ledeen's source and found it to be satire and that he should back away from a story that was totally bogus. If you go to the transcripts of Rush's show, you will find that he backed off the story within minutes of talking about it, though I don't necessarily believe it was my e-mail or solely my e-mail that got to him on it! Rush said this, and did so making his own satirical point about the GUANOs:

I'm also told that the blog containing the passage on Obama's thesis is a satire blog. So it's one of these sites like ScrappleFace or The Onion or some such thing. So I shout from the mountaintops: "It was satire!" But we know he thinks it. Good comedy, to be comedy, must contain an element of truth, and we know how he feels about distribution of wealth. He's mad at the courts for not going far enough on it. So we stand by the fabricated quote because we know Obama thinks it anyway. That's how it works in the media today.


Immediately after that I posted in the comments again at AT (11:42 a.m.) with a correction stating that Ledeen had inadvertently taken a satire seriously and that I had taken Ledeen's post seriously and the story was bogus. Not long after that Mr. Ledeen posted a link at the top of his blog post to an apology he offered for the mistake, and he also personally contacted Joe Klein and apologized to him:

The Obama “thesis” hoax
It’s a hoax, or a satire, depending on your point of view. Joe Klein has said that he never read any part of an Obama “thesis” from his Columbia days, and that’s conclusive, as far as I’m concerned.

The hoax/satire was written in August, so it’s not connected to any current event. I cam across it on Twitter, read the blog, found it interesting, and posted on it. I failed to notice that one of the tags was “satire.” So he got me, and lots of others. It worked because it’s plausible...

So I should have picked up some hint, but I didn’t. Shame on me.

I’m posting this as quickly as possible. Apologies to the president and to Joe Klein, and to Rush Limbaugh, who had many very wise things to say about the Constitution and the views of the Founders today, and to everyone else who got involved.


I ended up posting two more comments, one yesterday when it seemed some readers weren't getting the point that the story was in error. The other was today, with more detail, and in that one I directly answered one critical commentor, CommonSense, as follows:

Yes, CommonSense, bad mistakes, very much including mine. However, how quickly did we seek to correct them? Mr. Ledeen, Rush Limbaugh and PJM and the blog post author here at AT all posted corrections or backed off the story or both within hours or less. Was that the case with the major media and many on the left with the fake Limbaugh quotes, or the fake TANG documents about Bush, or Jimmy Masssey, or...as you write this:

"Have you all no shame? As the president he deserves that much."

CommonSense, have you ever in the last several years heard the totally bogus claim that "Bush lied" about Iraq, and who has climbed down on that false charge? On the left it was just keep repeating the lie until it is believed! That's the difference.


I also have to say this. I believe Mr. Ledeen's apology, especially to Joe Klein, was gracious. Mr. Klein's response, not so very much:

A report is circulating among the wingnuts that I had a peek at Barack Obama's senior thesis. It is completely false. I've never seen Obama's thesis. I have no idea where this report comes from--but I can assure you that it's complete nonsense.
Update: Michael Ledeen now has apologized to me on his blog, claiming that he, Limbaugh and others were punked by a satire. I appreciate the apology...but I wonder about what the willingness to take this cheesy crap as gospel says about Ledeen's--and Boss Rush's--sensibility. Actually, on second thought, I don't wonder all that much.


All I can say to Mr. Klein is that people make mistakes. Some try to correct them and even make strenuous effort to do so. Others, when having been accused of writing things that were in error, say things like:

I have neither the time nor...background to figure out who's right.


I didn't write that. Joe Klein did, and it comes from Editor & Publisher, November 29, 2007, and reads:

Klein, under persistent pressure since, backtracked to some extent in recent days, offering repeated updated clarifications, which critics also deemed inadequate. Finally he wrote, "I have neither the time nor legal background to figure out who's right." Now the next issue of Time magazine, due out Friday, runs a correction of sorts that Greenwald and others may still find lacking as it suggests the factual matter is under dispute. The Chicago Tribune, however, which carried Klein's column, ran a full-fledged, unqualified correction, today.


Yes, Mr. Klein, we can all make mistakes, and some of us seek to correct them quickly and apologize with sincerity, without pressure or equivocation. Yesterday I wrote this (4:59) in the comments at AT:

The source I relied on for the news about the supposed Obama thesis and the quotes that appeared "Obama Not Getting Media Coverage He Deserves!" was Michael Ledeen at PJM. He has now retracted his story and apologized for any trouble his post has caused to any, stating that he was taken in by what was either a fraud or a satire. I too sincerely apologize to American Thinker, its readership and Rush Limbaugh, for my part in having spread what turned out to be entirely false. I should have checked further than a single source for something with such volatile content.


But then again, Mr. Klein, I'm not a professional journalist who does this for a living or any compensation, so I didn't have to be pressured to make correction to error.

UPDATE: One might almost think there's a pattern of behavior here....

Another blog, Left Coast Rebel, also fell for the satire as being real and then also corrected and apologized without the need for any kind of pressure! Gosh!

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longwalker said...

Remember the old carpenter's rule. It also applies to political commentary with a few corrections. Instead of "measure twice, cut once," it is "check twice, publish once. Good follow through - no attempt to cover up but a quick correction of the record. You are "walking tall" in my view.

Denis Keohane said...

Thanks. Good rule. I've always gone by "pain is an excellent teacher" and as such I learned something yesterday. It was at exactly the moment I finally went to the site with the satire and saw it was that that I heard Limbaugh in my headphones say "Michael Ledeen has written..."! Like, OUCH!

curt bixel said...

You allow your political views to cloud your judgment. Show me an example where you made a similar mistake reporting "news" that reflected badly on the GOP.

Left Coast Rebel said...

Denis - Nicely said, we all erred in this affair, water under the bridge. Glad I found your site too, could you follow LCR?

Thanks....

Anonymous said...

Remember the false comments made about Rush the last couple of weeks involving the St Louis Rams. You people are getting played by Rush. He's doing the same thing to you and the media as they did to him. Hilarious !

Denis Keohane said...

To curt bixel:

Go a few posts down and I called Senator Lindsey graham an idiot. He's in the GOP. Republican. Note that I made no correction.

To: Left Coast Rebel:

Also glad I found your site, will follow it and link! Have to run but will check back!

Sam Kaufman said...

it looks like Rush Limbaugh has proven himself to be too eager a nay-sayer

longwalker said...

Sam Kaufman : Excuse me,I don't understand your comment. Could you please explain what you mean?

Left Coast Rebel said...

@ Longwalker - Troll alert, Sam Kaufman said the same thing at my site verbatim

Anonymous said...

And do you think it is appropriate for Jim Hoft to offer a blanket condemnation of Jumping in Pools as a "fake blog", because a few people didn't notice the satire tag or contact the young man about it?

Their blog has only a small amount of posts tagged as satire. The majority of the posts are not. The blog is not "fake". Nor does Jim Hoft seem to want to respond to the post addressed to him on the JiP blog today.

I am curious as to what you think about Gateway attacking that blogger in defense of you and the others who made the mistake of not researching it...

Denis Keohane said...

Anonymous,

Go look at Gateway Pundit again and Jim Hoft's Update and Update #2. Call that class! Hoft posted up front comments disagreeing with him! Also note that when I first and belatedly went to Jumping in Pools I noticed the "satire" tag in short order, and readily admitted my error and have not said a word criticizing that site at all - which I suppose is why you want me to comment on someone else who did! Correct?

Try again!

Anonymous said...

Not at all. I was sincerely curious if you thought it appropriate for Jim to attack in your defense of your mistake- that is what he is doing - which you yourself did not do. In fact, you were very graceful and classy in your post. Jim was not.

I appreciate your putting words in my mouth and thoughts in my head, though.

Yes, I see his updates. Not sure how that excuses his decision to pronounce another blog "fake" on behalf of those who mistakenly fell for it, though.

Denis Keohane said...

Anonymous,

So are we in agreement that I do not have to answer for Jim Hoft, but that it is fair to point out, as you did, that he jumped all over Jumping in Pools and then when others pointed out contrary views that questioned his judgement in the matter, Hoft moved those comments up in to the body of his post as Updates?

Again, that's class! I'll give you an example of non-class. I tried to post comments at Media Matters on this situation, identifying myself at the AT blog poster they wrote about and also admitting that, yes, I was indeed the 'right wing smear machine' Their words!)! I pointed out some things they got wrong and some they didn't know about. I also linked to the detailed account on this blog. That was yesterday. My comments have never shown up, apparently they are being moderated!

You think that's got class? If a person I wrote about on my blog said something in my comments, I'd allow it to be shown! But I'm not Media Matters!

http://mediamatters.org/research/200910230037

Anonymous said...

I do see what you're saying, and again, I wasn't trying to be an ass.

While Jim doesn't speak for you, at the same time he is using several people as a reason as to why a blog is fake. I don't think it's out of place for people to question your thoughts on that matter and I am glad to have received a response.

As far as whether his adding the updates negates his dragging another blog through the mud, we will have to disagree. I just hate to see us eating one of our own when it isn't really deserved.

As far as Media Matters - it's Media Matters and I would expect no less of them.

I do, and will continue, to enjoy your blog. Thanks for the conversation.

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Be well, Anonymous.

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Montana said...

So Rusky gets punked because he does not fact check? Wow, what a surprised.

Oh, and when contronted that he was punked, he defended himself by saying "we stand by the fabricated quote because we know Obama thinks it anyway"

After so many years of mis-labeling and mis-characterizing others he gets smacked down by the NFL "Not For Limbaugh". Way to go NFL, Great job!

Denis Keohane said...

Here is what's funny, Montana....

Rush read quotes from a satire without knowing it was satire. When he found out it was satire in very short order (only minutes!) he announced that, clearly and loudly.

Then he did some satire of his own, in saying that since we know Obama thinks like that we can stand by the false quote. That's the satire you just took seriously! Go look at the transcript! Rush is much smarter than you, and he just punk'd you into making the same mistake you charge him with, and the difference is - he corrected the fact that he was quoting satire - whereas you won't! I'll bet on it.

Neat!

Here's what Rush said in context from the transcript readily available to you and anyone:

RUSH: "I'm also told that the blog containing the passage on Obama's thesis is a satire blog. So it's one of these sites like ScrappleFace or The Onion or some such thing. So I shout from the mountaintops: "It was satire!" But we know he thinks it. Good comedy, to be comedy, must contain an element of truth, and we know how he feels about distribution of wealth. He's mad at the courts for not going far enough on it. So we stand by the fabricated quote because we know Obama thinks it anyway. That's how it works in the media today.

Get that last line, Montana? Now use Google to find out how many media and left sources said exactly that it didn't matter that Rush never said those things about slavery and James Earl Ray since we know he is a racist who thinks like that!

You've been punk'd:

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_102309/content/01125107.guest.html

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